Talk:Gaster/@comment-198.16.74.205-20200805085816/@comment-173.16.29.124-20200808041748

I hope you realize that Gaster and all of them are actually in the situation, not us. we as humans would do something stupid once and a while and make many many mistakes in a dire situation like THIS. freaking FEAR itself mixed with pure HATE trying to kill us. We get the behind the scenes of what happens. We get to watch what happens, and we get info that Gaster doesnt know of. We are aware of what goes on behind everything, he doesnt. How do you expect Gaster to automatically know everything. And as for Papyrus, in the end, he realized he was slowly draining his magic away, and knowing this he stopped his attack. Gaster didnt know this, or he already knew, but blinded by rage wasnt aware he was doing this. And Betty has to die. I wont say she deserves it, as such, it is her sole purpose of existing, so she doesnt DESERVE to die, its more of that she has to die, or its the end of humanity and monsters. Sans second death is not Gasters fault. Have you, or me, or anyone else been in his postion, wouldve tried ewually the same had we had his knowledge. Dont say you wont, becuase i know what would happen, because you dont, and neither would I or anyone else. You know this because you are a viewer who has access to information that they dont. And as for the Hate thing, yeah, but what about Betty? Keeping her alive is just as bad as letting Hate out, but what choices do you have? Let Betty stay alive and let her kill everyone. Or kill Betty and we might have a chance against Hate. These are all the possibilities. If we choose the first choice, everyone will certainly die sooner or later. Becuase Betty, herself, killed Gaster, even when she and Kumu were seperated, so not in her true form. And she wouldve killed Frisk, if not for Asriel, by herself, also not in her true form. She managed to manipulate Toriel to almost actually kill Asgore, and, if Gaster didnt interfere in Animosity, Toriel wouldve died, and she most likely would finish off Asgore. So thats a kill count of 4, and by herself. Asriel couldnt fight her in a fair fight either, as seen when Asriel and Sans were in the camera room, after Sans death, his fire ball did nothing to Kumu. So 5 potential deaths. And if Undyne didnt throw her spear, Alphys would count as her kill as well. So make that 6 kills. And if Undyne didnt have determination of her own, that would be another kill. 7. So thats 7 out of 10 monsters are dead is the biggest possibility if those what ifs happened. So we have Papyrus, Sans, and Chara left. Chara already died once to her, so yeah, 8. Papyrus would most likely die on his own, and many chances of him alone could be possible if they left Betty alive. And Sans is by far the strongest, but was over taken by Betty in Animosity. The only reason he lived was becasue of Gaster. Betty is really strong, She is the triat of FEAR itself, she consumed all the HATE, and she has Rapdophobia, and took Sans blasters, which were already stronger because it was determination filled. Imagine she took his soul again, and controlled him. Not only is Sans regularly powerful on his own, no determination or anything, but if Betty takes control then, Sans has had Undynes and Frisks determination injected in him, and then taken controlled of by a FEAR and HATE filled creature. So if that happened, they would be a slaughter machine. Powerful by themselevs already, and then boosted by Undynes determination, Frisks determination, a whole vial of HATE, and FEAR. and FEAR, HATE, and DETERMINATION being the top three strongest. Thats that possibility of that timeline pranching that way. Now we consider the other branch. If we killed her, theres only hate left. She cant contol anyone else anymore, so no more of that, no more Rapdophobia, and no more FEAR. now there is only HATE. And Chara seems to be able to take HATE in. And i am unsure as of right now, but it seems she created a new soul trait hybrid, of Animostiy. Determination and (controled) Hate. And in this timeline, were all of the things happened, this is what we have. We have Undyne, who has already used her full form, which can most likely be summoned again. Gaster, having also full power, just needs a little rest and some magic boost from Papyus, which he probably wont mind since its only half. Papyrus seems to be able to hold his own for a while, even when he wass drained half of his magic. We have Asriel back, and Toriel probably healed Asgore too, so we have them as well. The chances of winning are 50/50, and maybe there is some secrets Camilia has that she hasnt revealed at all, so who knows. Plot twist is that one or more of them have even more powerful attacks. So all things considered, even if Gaster made mistakes, in the end, it was still some pretty good results. Some people died, some people severely injured, and mistakes made and people died cause of them. But its okay, its not like if Chara let someone who is aware of timelines and resets and stuff, like Gaster, could just let Gaster have their soul, and im not 100% sure, but the reset button might reappear. In some games, handing someone something triggers a button to reappear if your avatar cant access it. "Glitches" like that can happen. And bam, reset, and everything is back to normal again. But I highly doubt they would reset. After all of that, I think its a timeline worth living in. So all in all, dont hate Gaster for that, he did the right thing. I understand Betty doesnt "deserve" to die, but its more of she "has" to die, or else everyone else would die.